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Accelerate your dealership success.
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This is the Car Guy Simple Podcast.
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Welcome back to CGS Car Guy Simple, the pod for the retail automobile business fixed or variable ops.
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We're in.
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Thank you for listening, watching, and participating.
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Don't forget to subscribe.
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This is your first time.
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Welcome.
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If you're back, welcome.
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Let's dive in.
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Should we dive in, Josh?
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Let's dive in.
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Let's dive in.
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Zero splash.
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You haven't fun yet?
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Wow.
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You talk about a challenging market.
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You know, we I've been getting a lot of phone calls lately.
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You know, people that have been in the business for 10, 15, 20, 20 plus years.
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A lot different types of questions than people that have gotten into the car business recently.
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And there's people out there that um are using AI to assist in their wartime conciliary opinions and solutions.
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And I guess to a degree that matters.
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Practical experience and help is difficult to come by if you have any position in the car business and you're like, well, I uh I just left a meaning where I was asked, what are we gonna do about it?
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What are we gonna do about it is a very interesting question for people to ask, whether it's an ownership, manager level, or any member of the team.
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What are we gonna do about it?
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What are we gonna do about it?
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What are we gonna do about it?
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Well, if you happen to be doing business, let's start there.
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If you happen to be doing business in a in a geography that has an exceptional mass transit um system, right?
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Planes, or rather, I'm sorry, not planes, uh uh buses and and subways and trains, you know that people still, you know, it's that's the American thing.
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I want to drive.
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I want to drive.
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And if you're not in an area that has a great mass transit system, um maybe a bus comes through, or are there any buses, right?
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That it's still a challenging.
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What are we gonna do about it?
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This market is challenging right now.
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My dad was a dealer principal, multi-rooftop guy for 53 years.
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He was a successful dealer as a Dodge dealer in Brooklyn, New York, during the Great Depression, survived and didn't go out of business.
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And I learned a lot from him before I broke his heart and went out on my own.
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Well, that was an interesting conversation.
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The reality is he always used to say, when business is at its worst, that's your opportunity to be your best.
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So that when things pick back up again, because what do we know about the car business, like at most other types of retail economies, they're cyclical.
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At the bottom of the of the what are we going to do about it?
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questions, or things are bottomed out, we get perfection with our skills, our processes, our tactics, our beliefs, our tenons of doing business.
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When things come to the top of the and things are rolling and you you're selling cars almost by accident, how much better will you be able to do?
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Tough questions yield fantastic answers.
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It's a challenge to overcome that stuff.
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It's not a roadblock.
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It's not, I'm gonna drive off the cliff.
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It's not gonna do any of that.
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Slow things down and speed them up, be willing to listen.
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You know, in the advertising business, which uh right, PMD powers this particular pod, and you all know that by now.
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How was gotten milk created?
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That that was the story of that.
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It wasn't some high power, you know, advertising executive.
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It was somebody that said, Oh about anybody in this room, but the only time I really think about milk is whether or not I got milk.
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Bang.
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So, so sometimes it's more valuable to be really good listener.
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What's what's that old school expression?
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My dad used to say, Oh, that's right.
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We got one of these, and we got two of these.
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So as frustrating as things get, you know, do you have a bad weekend?
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Well, bad is defined by whatever your average weekend is, not a great weekend.
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Um, it wasn't even good enough, right?
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Like stepping up to the first T and blocking the ball, you know, 70 yards to the right and putting it in the woods and going, oh, all right.
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Does that mean that the rest of your day is shot?
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No.
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What did you learn from it?
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Let's continue moving forward.
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So, so I believe that challenges like I just laid out over the last few minutes are opportunities.
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Opportunities to stay patient, opportunities to learn, opportunities to grow, opportunities to improve.
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Focus on those opportunities, and the consumer opportunities will follow if we're listening and paying attention to both the economy and the consumer.
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I really have never cared about what the programs are or are not being given by the manufacturer that we represent or manufacturers.
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Doesn't matter to me.
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I if the back wheels go forward, let's roll them.
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Because in the alternative, we're not rolling any vehicles, and uh, well, there's always being a shoe store.
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So let's not get there.
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Okay.
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So let's let's take uh let's go to the next thing.
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Complete departure from what I just talked about leasing versus financing, right?
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Pre-COVID, we did a really good job, and I'm an old dog, right?
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I'm an old dog, O L E, not necessarily O L D, but uh either way, however you want to spell it.
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Um I was in the business at what's considered to be leasing's when it's at what is that is infancy, when it was just starting, right?
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And I had to learn how to manually take a blank piece of paper and manually with a calculator, be given the the money factor, the residual and the term and the selling price, and calculate the payment with with just that calculator.
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Not those those old school calculators that would do the payment.
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Just do the math, right?
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Just do the basic math.
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Um, I still believe that in order to sell a lease to get people to understand the benefits of leasing, you have to understand the mathematical mechanics of how to get to that payment.
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I'd certainly be willing to help you with that if you if you need to.
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There's other people.
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I remember uh remember example, Ford's half a car.
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Now that goes back a bunch of decades ago with the thing hanging on in the showroom and a scissors going through the uh the the Monroni label, the MSRP, right?
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The window sticker, right?
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That to get people to go, what does that mean?
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Right.
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And leasing took off.
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Because the common thing was, well, you pay for things that that appreciate and you lease things that depreciate, or all of the other puffery statements.
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Show the mechanics of it, you lease the vehicle, you build a portfolio.
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COVID come off the rails, everybody buys, most portfolios were slashed in less than half percentage, even in major metro areas throughout the country, leasing percentages have dropped really, really, really heavily.
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Do we want to blame it on OEM programs?
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Well, in some cases, maybe, but do we really understand how to sell a lease?
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Do our salespeople understand how to discuss it?
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Because by discussing leasing, we're selling it.
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Why?
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We're giving people, think about this phrase, an alternative to traditional financing.
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Let me ask you a question.
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You're telling me the payment doesn't make sense for you.
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Am I right?
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Yes.
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Well, let me ask you a question.
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Um, am I right in in concluding that when you said to me, this is all I can put down, we're really all there?
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Yeah.
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Would you be open, and I understand, would you be open to a two-minute explanation of an alternative to financing?
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You're talking about a lease?
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Well, some people call it that.
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Would you indulge me for two minutes?
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Now, when they say okay, that means that they really love the value proposition of the selling process that you put forward in the time that you've spent with that honored guest, right?
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And they're willing to listen to more.
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You won't close all of them, but you're gonna have an opportunity to get a higher closing ratio between your first-time close and your be back ratios.
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Okay.
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It only works if everybody on the showroom floor understands how to not only discuss the leasing, but explain it in a way that really reduces it down to two and two equals four.
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You don't have to get into the heavy math and all the other stuff.
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I always like to challenge people in dealerships.
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Show me how you calculate a lease manually.
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Uh uh, well, the more you know, the more you right, Josh, the TV thing, the more you know.
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The more you know, right?
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That doesn't mean you have to unleash it all the time, but alternatives.
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Well, there's a closing process called the alternative close, right?
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I'm not trying to give this as a closing tactic.
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I'm trying to give different ways.
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Think about different ways to do business.
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Think about retirement.
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If CFPs, certified financial planners, right, they are geared to giving people that are trying to save for retirement options and different ways to assemble the cash to allow them to the their client, right, to unplug eventually and live their life.
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There's not one retirement strategy.
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Can you imagine if that was the case?
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How would we be able to get from here to retirement if there was only one way?
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And that one way just didn't fit.
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Alternatives matter.
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Understand how to explain the difference between leasing and financing.
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Be ready to answer, well, I've always paid cash, and fortunately, even though what would that article recently uh currently the average is uh what 50 grand uh uh currently for the price of an of a vehicle?
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Uh people should understand their options, be agnostic to the options.
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That'll force you to not be salesy about the options.
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Instead, it'll make you more of a counselor, right?
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Certified CFP, certified financial planner.
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Can't you be a certified vehicle salesperson, planner, or some other acronym thing that we're gonna do?
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That's why it takes time to learn this stuff.
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It's not about selling more cars, it's about retaining more thought processes to help people make great decisions and blame you for those great decisions.
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Wouldn't it be nice once in a while to get blamed for them making a good decision?
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I thought you might agree with that, so let's move on.
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Let's move on.
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We just finished uh what Q1, Josh?
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Just finished Q1.
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2026, Q1's done already.
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My goodness.
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Now we're into Q2.
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Uh forward planning.
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Forward planning requires us to bring, trot the mirror in to our office, our boardroom, our whatever, and look into the mirror, not to be punitive and beat ourselves over the head or beat somebody else over the head with the mirror.
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We have to ask the hard questions to learn, right?
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Knowledge is power.
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What are the hard questions that we need to ask in looking at Q1 that could help us in Q2?
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Message, brand message, value proposition discussions, process amenities, the consumer speak.
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People in our business sometimes forget that they're not always, more often than not, they're not at all, their own customer.
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So if we're just constantly thinking that this will get them to buy or lease, and if you're not the customer, well, that's it, that's a miss.
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And even if you are the customer that buys or leases from from um uh from that uh for that particular manufacturer, that's great.
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Think about it though.
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If we're able to listen to everybody, including the consumer, instead of maybe just sales meetings, what's your plan?
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How many, what's your goal, how many you're gonna deliver, not tying it back to any data.
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You know, our web uh early on in our episodes, I referred to a tool that we give away for free.
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It's even on our ad agency's website to allow salespeople, managers, and uh, and owners to forecast based on what their plan is, how many people they need to get in front of to deliver the amount of vehicles, the number of vehicles they need to deliver.
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It's called reverse engineering.
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Well, wouldn't it be considered reverse engineering if we uh took a little bit of stock in what people other than us are saying?
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What worked, what didn't.
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What does the data show?
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I'm not talking about what your GA4 says.
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I'm not talking about any of that.
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I'm not talking about the digital results.
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Was it tonnage?
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Did it convert to show them sales?
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That matters.
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That should be part of your Q1 review.
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There are vendors out there potentially that maybe the crap, crap, crap is uh is splashing.
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Maybe they're not.
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Are we giving them enough budget?
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Is our per car spend working?
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Is a percentage of the per car spend working?
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What are consumers saying?
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When was the last time somebody in the organization called a block of business and said, let me ask you a question?
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Two, well, do you have 60 seconds?
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Yes, fine.
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First question, 30-second answer.
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What was the major two reasons?
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What were the two most important reasons that you did business with us?
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Oh.
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Next is a 30-second question.
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Is there anything that you think we could add to make it better?
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Could you imagine if you did that, what a consumer might, might, might, might, might want to do?
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And then we have to worry about stocking the shelves.
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I know manufacturers, it the inventories are up and they're down and they're up and they're down.
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And used vehicles, I'm not paying$3,000 over MMR, and I'm having a tough time equity mining in my service department.
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And and and I'm trying to get cars over the curb just by purchasing them and getting consumers to, even if they don't want to trade and they just want to sell it to us.
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What does that look like?
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How much are we spending internally and externally?
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Because it doesn't always have to be a marketing spend.
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Remember, when we train, when we review, when we discuss, it costs money, right?
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Because time is money, is it not?
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I I mean, I think it is.
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Think about that.
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Invest into everything that you can possibly think of investing into, whether it's time, money, or both, to understand what went on in Q1 to help drive what we need to be thinking about going forward in Q2 and not go, well, if the factory just would give us 50 more of these models in this particular engine and would put an extra 1500 on the hood of the vehicle, we'll do better.
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And if I could just find a way to not have to pay over MMR, I could.
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Well, you can't sell from an empty shelf.
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And I hate to say pass the savings loan to the consumer, but if you had to pay for a particular used vehicle because it was tightright and out of sight, and it had a marketing value that was in demand, and you took a pass on it because, well, I can't make a big, you know, 10-pound deal on this one.
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It's only going to be a couple of pounds or whatever your expression is in your neck of the woods based on where you're located.
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Is that the end of the world?
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Units in operation, whether it's new, used, or otherwise.
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That's how we keep service absorption where it needs to be, build units in operation, help service, help parts, help accessories, and get people into our family so that when they are ready for their next vehicle, they're going to consider us.
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They're going to refer us.
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They're going to love the experience.
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They're going to be driving our nameplate.
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Because it doesn't matter to me if it's news user or otherwise.
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What matters is that they're driving our vehicle.
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Some things to think about.
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Some things to think about.
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Think about the next segment because we're going to break in a minute and we're going to go to the mailbag.
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Okay.
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Because the mailbag's starting to fill up, and that's so rewarding that people are like, well, what about this?
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And what about that?
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And what happens if I paint my building blue or whatever?
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What happens?
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Stay tuned.
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We're going to be right back in just 60 seconds and we're going to talk about mailbag stuff.
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Thank you.
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Hang in there.
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I'll be back in 60 seconds.
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Thanks.
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Welcome back to CGS Car Guy Simple, the pod for the retail automobile business.
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Retail automobile business.